When a couple gets married, usually one of the expectations for marriage is that they will sleep in the same room and in the same bed. Most couples probably start out this way, but in 2017 the National Sleep Foundation conducted a survey that revealed that about a quarter of all married couples sleep in separate beds and sometimes even sleep in separate bedrooms. This is called a sleep divorce.

Carson Daly and his wife Siri Daly have had a sleep divorce since fall 2019. At the time, Siri was pregnant with the couple’s 4th child. Carson explained to PEOPLE, “We’re both pretty good-sized humans and it just wasn’t really working when she was in her third trimester, and I also have sleep apnea, which is very sexy for the ladies out there, I’m sure. She couldn’t get comfortable, so we were like a commercial you would see, kicking each other and just not sleeping.”

Carson and Siri mutually decided that a sleep divorce was a good idea. He explained, “We woke up and we just shook hands like, ‘I love you, but it’s time to sleep divorce. It’ll be the best thing for all of us.”

Just like for the Dalys, there are multiple reasons that a couple might choose to try a sleep divorce such as one person snoring or the inability to get comfortable and sleep through the night in the same bed.

After the Dalys welcomed their 4th child into the world, they continued their sleep divorce, but for different reasons. For awhile, they temporarily relocated from New York to Los Angeles, but Carson still had to wake up to film TODAY. Due to the time change, that meant he had to set his alarm for 3am. He didn’t want to wake up his wife that early, so they slept in separate bedrooms.

Now, Carson reveals that he and his wife have turned their sleep divorce into more of a sleep separation. Watch the video below to hear Carson reveal what that means and to hear more thoughts about why a sleep divorce may or may not be a good idea for married couples.

According to therapist Emily Jamea, if you and your spouse are considering a sleep divorce, it’s a good idea to discuss it first and to set expectations. It’s also a good idea to ease into it. Perhaps spend time cuddling before heading to separate beds, and be intentional about physical touch during the day.